The trouble with the mediums, psychics and fortune tellers and the Uri Gellers is not that they talk about “spirits” and “invisible beings” but that they talk about these things wrongly, stupidly, ignorantly and most often proudly. Almost all mediums and psychics are in touch with the most “illiterate” and stupid spirits. There is more cheating and nonsense in the “spirit world” than in this to all of visible world. Uri Geller likes to play with spoons and watches. Most mediums play with sick and dangerous spirits and spirit criminals.
Most of the old taoists, yogis and sufis had structures of the mind to lean on like most people now. A few, very few of the taoists, yogis and sufis on the other hand were living in several worlds at the same time. They saw and could discriminate between beings in the spirit world just like you two can see and discriminate between people you know. And some of us do so, more or less clearly, even today.
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